Why are some -------------------- >

topic posted Tue, January 8, 2008 - 8:24 AM by  Nobuoni +
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Why are some people reluctant to share openly knowledge'

No one is going to be persecuted nowadays for their studies in unorthodox sciences,
so there can be but one purpose in withholding teaching that relates solely to the theory of the universe and the
philosophy arising there from, and that purpose is to retain a monopoly of the knowledge which confers prestige,

if not power.

Don't defend this and don't agree with this'

Debate'

Blessed be'

Motumba'

As I have learnt, of where I shall go, I will share "Openly"

For through my perceptions, my world word created'

All for the joy' Of the "all" to see .*.


For my part I believe that this selfishness and exclusiveness is the bane of the occult
movement rather than its safeguard. It is the old sin of retaining the knowledge of God in
the hands of a priesthood and denying it to all outside the sacred clan; justifiable enough
when the people were savages, but unjustifiable in the case of the modern student. For
when all is said and done, the desired information can be worked out from existing
literature by those who care to take the trouble, or purchased plainly set forth by those
who can afford high prices for books now rare.

Surely the possession of ample time and ample cash should not be the test of the fitness to obtain the Sacred Wisdom?



In all is one multiplied'

Equaling three'

Five on either side doubled,

The same as your fingers and perceptions

Crossed twenty two with presicion'

Then balanced'

Disected in four'

Gives the sum of direction in the middle devided'

Equaling'

One'

All'

But it still goes deeper, of the Zodaic the Archangels, perceptions Gods and more'

One God created to move in the spirit,

Imaginations eminations

A creature a vessel to bestow upon the giving of life

Joy returned equal through the love of the giving'

All given freely'

To learn the reception of pleasure'

Numbers letters symbols directions manipilations visualisation "the Word" and all'

Creates' to move an expression of life'

Those of you that ignored me I thank you most sincerely,

I have much to learn'

For you gave me the fervere to study and learn'

Thank you'

God does move,

But not always in the way you wish God to move'

Love is the law, love under will'

Blessed be'


Motumba' Dissumba' nangona'

I could go into this more clearly and in detail in correct order, but I am tired so just enjoy'


I have a most awesome teacher' ;')~~~

Remember it is the "Word" that creates to move'

Your attachment from physical body to etheric is only 7.32 cm or there abouts through 90 degrees from your centre'

Mirror your conciousness'

Any one up for learning the I-Ching ;')~~~

Keep things simple folks'

Simple is good'

Long posts peole have a hard time consentrationg on'

That is of how you get blinded'

9' 16' 5' 1'

The root to your God head is through 3, 4,0,1-10+1=11x2= 22 through 10 dots = 32 paths of enlightenment so to peak'

Greek letters =22 and ten Seriphot =32

We got ten fingues and we live in a 3 dimensional world'

You go figure'

3s 4s 10. 22. 32'

Ez now'

Don't brake somit'

M'

Names and labels folks'

Rememeber the "Word" came before the thought'

I-Magi-Nation'

With one on one side an one on the other and'

A static state,

existing in a continual expression in the middle'

Mirror either one'

And you got mor ethan you starte with'

Seeing as we live to gain'

You got a key to life the univefrse an evrything'

Supposedly there are 32 paths'

I am still a work in progress'

M'

12+1 = 13'

It works if you mirror it x1.

Remember mirrors do not double they multiply by one each time'

Yesterday, today, tomorow'

You move through imagination the two, to create the three'

Move the three through ten and four points'

Ez now'

Move to "Create" folks'

The "Cross is symbolism = four'

The star is symbolism = 5 & 6'

Revolving through a centre of 3s, 4s, 10, 5 x plus 1.

The total being of known of yet'

Thirty two'

Wind over wood x two'

Anything you feel you know, you are crap at, get involved in and study,

For expressions to answers, if the correct question is posed'

The answer shall be given, unto you'

Be blessed'

Blessed be'

Mo' + t' = u as duration' m =13 b is just simple a = traingle for all to see'

Sweet blessings

Motumba'

22 leters in the "Hebrew" alphebet'

Change your perspective'

You change your view'

Ez now'

From stone to etheric' ;')~~~

Come study and see'
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  • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

    Tue, January 15, 2008 - 5:37 PM
    I am a big advocate for "open source", open hearts & sharing knowledge (& everything else) ~ I do think they all go together.

    from what I have seen, I think that many families (not just biological families) have a "tradition" of secrecy that has been passed down through many generations ~ I know that within my own family, I can trace that trend as far back as I can chart my genealogy

    possibly it was useful in the past ~ but it is still un/subconsciously transmitted between family members even tho I am firmly of the belief that secrecy is "outdated" at this point in history ~ old habits die hard, but they can be overcome ~ I, personally, find much pleasure in doing just that

    love all-ways,
    mem
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      Re: Why are some -------------------- >

      Thu, January 17, 2008 - 10:01 PM
      Mohllem Molen Husj Tin Eheim
      Marv Tsed Dah Tella
      Jhew Rhophiem Mem Jhigh
      Ko Rojh Psust Fsist Sher Na


      <<Marv Tsed Dah Tella>>
      If written in sand...goes Undirsturbed...It will become as stone


      <<Jhew Rhophiem Mem Jhigh>>
      Giants make thier marks high in the mountains


      <<Ko Rojh Psust Fsist >>
      At such a place were they came to first..

      <<Sher Na>>
      and likely will likely go unseen for many years



      <<Mohllem Molen Husj >>
      Until man reaches that summit
      He shall not see this wonder

      <<Tin Eheim>.
      That the Angels have been protecting






      • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

        Fri, January 18, 2008 - 10:20 AM
        Ah but one requires the tools, so as to eat of the food, after harvest'
        Without blindness, in the first place'
        So as to be able, to see'

        The hight of the mountain of secrets'
        The secret holders you say are Angels' I beg to differ' Angels gave of the knowledge'
        Then departed too elsewhere'

        Destructions caused the loss of the knowledge in the first place'

        Then Man' chose to keep of what little was left for himself and his hierarchy family'

        I have chance to study of the truths of all of these writings, great books of religion, non of them tell of the keys of how they where written, but one'
        All the rest are spouted as truth that no one can attain'
        Books of gates without the keys written'

        It was done to maintain power simple and is still done today'

        If you wish to know of the truths, keep digging, it is out there, not wrapped in ribbons an covered in paper.

        Non of the so called great religions work unless you have total blind faith'
        Blind faith insomething else other than yourself'

        Faith in ones self and the riches within are of what life is about, not trying to attain to something that someone has wrapped up and made look precious, but totally unattainable without the correct dirrection and keys of schooling'

        Churches and religions don't teach of this freedom, because,

        they would lose control'

        How many folks that read these books actually know of how and why they where written in the first place?

        blessed be'

        Motumba'

        Folks only go blind and mad at of what they can not see' :+.:+: The rest just lie down and accept fate'

        Love under will'

        Do you think the Church/world would be the same today if we all could see of these beauties and wonders' and aslo of how and why the books where written'
        In chemistry you don't just throw chemicals in a bowl and say there' you got ether' it takes a certain form and knowledge'
        So the same with the creator' who created all of this'
        Spirituallity and self enlightenment must take of a form, otherwise it does not achieve it's objective'
        To only give part of the knowledge is corrupt'
        And the main ill of this world that we live in'

        Cadke'sh Cask'andra'
        Nothing is just thrown together or without reason'

        Even the Lords prayer has a key'

        We must beome the change we wish to see in the world'
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          Re: Why are some -------------------- >

          Sat, January 19, 2008 - 4:49 AM
          <<We must beome the change we wish to see in the world' >>
          and this is key
          • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

            Sat, January 19, 2008 - 6:54 AM
            We must become the change we wish to see in the world'

            And that was why there was twelve disciples' following one' for to show the people of the truth'

            The teachings just then got twisted to pieces by the Church, and only ministers where given the keys to the writitngs,

            making them as over lords of the people'

            About twelve years ago it was all made public, for those that wished to see'

            Then folks that saw of this mystery said "Awesome we can continue in the fashion that the people are accustomed to, and live off of their ignorance, of what they do not know will not hurt them"
            Surely this is of why the world is in such a mess'
            Everyone believes it is ok to pass on faulse hoods, keep secrets from each other, the same as they where taught, or if they find some of the truth, keep it secret as it has always been'
            No wonder so many folks have died in the name of religion'
            Seeing as each one believes they have the truth'

            People should have the right to freedom of choice and be given all of the so called secrets, then maybe we would become more as equals and not so self dependant on striving to be prosperious in material wealth'
            But accepting of each other that we are all the same and walk the same path' in "Love"

            Wouldn't we get to of where we are going faster without all the secrets'

            Who is protecting who?

            blessed be'

            Motumba'

            <<Marv Tsed Dah Tella>>
            If written in sand...goes Undirsturbed...It will become as stone '


            Written in sand, seen in mind, then scribed to parchment,
            Taught of all, so all can see,
            this treasure will last forever'

            Moshak' nosi' ke'rera' no'seta' e' ce' ce' sa' lenta' sa'
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              Re: Why are some -------------------- >

              Sun, January 20, 2008 - 11:23 AM
              I am the Sun and the Moon
              I am all the stars and Heavens combined
              All that is seen and not seen I am
              All of Me is all that is and ever will be
              I say, I am, I will
              Self
              • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                Sun, January 20, 2008 - 2:35 PM
                Nice one Meeko

                'I am with you all the way there'

                As long as self'

                does not become selfless'

                Without self reflection'

                blessed be'

                Motumba'
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                  Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                  Thu, January 24, 2008 - 7:39 AM
                  what is selfless.... when first we are selfish? Fish hahahaha How does one know about oneself, if it requires to be self-fish first to attain pain for wisom??? Pain exchange for Love? Then once one has attained enough Love then One becomes selfless? How can someone feel they are ready to give their all, when they may not know first what their all is? Trial and Error.... Practice can only exist in a two lane parallel world, two oposites.... So to have or want a utopia earth will never happen thats selfish, to have a earth that reigns purely hell is also selfish, cause we are in school of life, and would u want to make ur home in school, or is school something you graduate from? eh eh? So then to teach others to be students of the planet is more equal, than to allow any One party have free choice over the worlds outcome. Just pondering on why or how some may think Earth can be a totaly paradise... I mean was it a paradise before to give others that impression that it will come back, isnt the point to life ... CHANGE... so to want something to stay permanently is a form of inner selfish/fear orinted thinking based on what one see's here in the Now, and wishes for it to be gone is ignorant? It is and is supposed to be or else it wouldnt BE. Right? I mean we truly have to ask ourselves..... What is Love? We often think Love is all good, but love let us have pain... so love is Pain also.
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                    Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                    Thu, January 24, 2008 - 7:40 AM
                    So love is everything, not just one thing, cause love is found everywhere, in every situation in some form or another, love is ALL and all that IS. So who are the people who want only a One Way World?
                    • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                      Thu, January 24, 2008 - 11:26 AM
                      So who are the people who want only a One Way World'

                      Hey Meeko' we have had a one way world for about the last 5000 years'

                      It is time to change from materialism and mov back to spirit'

                      All these secrets from each other just show he fear for what it is'

                      Insecurity'

                      I understand selfish' cos I been the money material road, was also addicted to everything none to get you wrecked for 23 years'

                      So ok I understand your balance soke of and I must get my unrelenting desire to be free and show every other person on the planet to edo the same, because it all used to be selfish, but I am now learning ot be selfless'

                      You know, no matter how much you bang your head and try to explain, folks won't listen because they do not like change'

                      I chose change above all the chaos I used to live in'

                      I now have water food, love, light and direction'

                      The problem is that folks don't hang aroun long enough to find out of who they really are'

                      So just bumble about like headless chickens because they know no better'

                      Or an organiser of hording materia' in the true I am tradition of what is mine is mine'

                      The joy comes from the giving not the receieving'

                      Not many folks seem to remember this simple fact'

                      Thank you for your words Meeko'

                      At least some one takes the time to think of these matters with me'

                      blessed be'

                      Motumba'

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                        Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                        Thu, January 24, 2008 - 6:07 PM
                        I was just talking about "change" today, and its never odd enough for me to wake-up every morning and feel as if everything is just a dreamlike imaginitive state, where as soon as we can wake-up in the wakeing time, we can move our imaginational minds. To remember that things arent things... they are thoughts.. all is thought, and thoughts "change" a box of cereal, is not cereal, its a thought, and after its gone during a process of thoughts, a new thought will become of it. I was realizing how greatful I am, for always changeing, and at times when things seemed like a standstill, I tried to find something to change me, or change into... either be is peaceful days, or pushing days.
                        I take every sign whole heartedly... and dualy noted at the same time lol... These past three days (always seems to be in three's) street people would ask me for change, if I could spare some change... then fire trucks and ambulances would always start their sirens near or in my presence... and i take note of these things... its all a function, a circle of life, a circle of thoughts... think a certain way, have a certain attitude and we truly Do attract the same atitudes, or a situation presents itself in the manner of our thoughts. Sometimes i feel my thoughts are causing others harm sometimes... so I think nicely and then all of a sudden the situation gets better... now if someone could explain that one... then we have ourselves some serious answers.. or more serious questions hahaha

                        • Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                          Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:19 AM
                          Sometimes i feel my thoughts are causing others harm sometimes... so I think nicely and then all of a sudden the situation gets better... now if someone could explain that one... then we have ourselves some serious answers.. or more serious questions hahaha

                          Reflection the triangle of life'

                          You know Kabbala'

                          When we move closer to spirit we see things for of what they really are, not the way we just seem to glance at them'

                          Power in them words sis for sure'
                          All is "Thought" reflected through Mind' spirit reflection'

                          There is your threes'

                          Heart hand and mind'

                          Problems caused when the triangle is used the wrong way, from mind hand to heart'
                          Energies try to run backwards and just get blocked'

                          But I guess I am trying to teach you to such eggs, cos you know this stuff'
                          Astute young woman that you are'

                          The most amazing thing I have found about thought is our learnt association through word, instead of symbol'
                          When youy take out that voice of mind that runs through endless words and sentences, get it to sit still and then move'
                          That is "Magic"

                          I love your way of looking Meeko' open like a flower'
                          Sweet'

                          Passive active, I see of what you are saying, to prevent stagnation'

                          Excellent work Meeko'

                          I thank you for your time and trouble you took to speak with me'

                          Have a great day now'

                          bliss'

                          Motumba'
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                            Re: Why are some -------------------- >

                            Sun, January 27, 2008 - 5:27 PM
                            Oh it is Never trouble to speak to you :) Lately I realized another sign, one that hits my heart very dearly, and I will messege u more about it.. Again, the signs are really closeing in, like a ride at its final turn.

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